Truckers

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 07:07 PM

Doesn't it piss you guys (and gals) off when you're driving behind a large transport truck and suddenly a sheet of ice flys off the top and lands on your car?. Thank god I've never been hit, but I've had a few close calls. Today I'm driving home on the highway and I see this transport driving along in the middle lane several car lengths ahead of me. Suddenly a huge sheet of ice slides off the top and lands on the hood of the car behind him

. Everybody was trying to dodge the ice. I don't know if there was any damage to the car, but if that ice had been thick and landed on the windshield, it could have caused a major accident. Isn't there a law that says you're suppose to clean the top of your vehicle off?.

It also bugs me when you see people driving along with a foot of snow and ice on their vehicles and they never bother to clean them off.

Tim S · 12-31-2004, 07:11 PM

Yes, ice is a big problem here in Florida.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 07:14 PM

1. Florida

2. Stop following big trucks around, problem solved, chances are you are driving way to close to the truck to have ice land on your car.

Tim S · 12-31-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by V6 SSTANG

2. Stop following big trucks around, problem solved, chances are you are driving way to close to the truck to have ice land on your car.

exactly

Travis · 12-31-2004, 07:22 PM

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exactly

yes.

MrPhantom · 12-31-2004, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustang

Doesn't it piss you guys (and gals) off when you're driving behind a large transport truck and suddenly a sheet of ice flys off the top and lands on your car?. Thank god I've never been hit, but I've had a few close calls. Today I'm driving home on the highway and I see this transport driving along in the middle lane several car lengths ahead of me. Suddenly a huge sheet of ice slides off the top and lands on the hood of the car behind him

. Everybody was trying to dodge the ice. I don't know if there was any damage to the car, but if that ice had been thick and landed on the windshield, it could have caused a major accident. Isn't there a law that says you're suppose to clean the top of your vehicle off?.

It also bugs me when you see people driving along with a foot of snow and ice on their vehicles and they never bother to clean them off.

yea dude chill out, my bro is an Owner/operator and drives way more cautious than cars do... Insurance is friggin high on a rig, so they have to drive like robots with no MISTAKES.... Most of the accidents I have seen where by careless people driving too close behind rigs or trying to pass us with either their lights off, or on a short cut off median... Just stay atleast 3 or 4 car lengths behind a rig at all times, and don't cut one off, they can't hear your ass..... and if ice falls off and hits your car, well sorry bro its not the drivers fault, it is mother nature's...

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 07:25 PM

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well sorry bro its not the drivers fault, it is mother nature's...

File a lawsuit against mother nature next time, this is America. My dad also has to drive company trucks sometimes and big rig drivers are very careful. I drove his F650 once, thats as close to a huge truck as I get. Id like to test out a 53' trailer with a kenworth pulling it. One day.

MrPhantom · 12-31-2004, 07:29 PM

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File a lawsuit against mother nature next time, this is America. My dad also has to drive company trucks sometimes and big rig drivers are very careful. I drove his F650 once, thats as close to a huge truck as I get. Id like to test out a 53' trailer with a kenworth pulling it. One day.

It's hella fun, cars move out the friggin way when they see you coming... My bro currently has a Volvo rig, but hes upgrading to a Peterbilt 375 model 3axle rig with a 500horse catepillar and 18speed eaton tranny..... dude with a full load in a trailer, its a beeyatch to stop...

.... the pay is good though.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 07:33 PM

I heard volvo has some very expensive repairs. I head kenworth is super dependable though. I used to laugh when I see 2002 trucks with like 500,000 miles on them, then I realized they still have 500,000+ left. If I was very wealthy, I would buy a truck to cruise around in. I got to try driving one.

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by V6 SSTANG

1. Florida

2. Stop following big trucks around, problem solved, chances are you are driving way to close to the truck to have ice land on your car.

Not exactly. The sheet of ice doesn't just slide off and land on the ground. When you're driving at over 100KPH, many times the ice breaks apart and flys up in the air like a sheet of glass and then land on top of the oncoming cars. The guy driving the behind the truck probably wouldn't get hit, but the car 20 yard behind him would. Anyways, I don't see how you could comment on this subject when you live in a place that never sees snow. You've probably never experienced anything like this.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustang

Not exactly. The sheet of ice doesn't just slide off and land on the ground. When you're driving at over 100KPH, many times the ice breaks apart and flys up in the air like a sheet of glass and then land on top of the oncoming cars. The guy driving the behind the truck probably wouldn't get hit, but the car 20 yard behind him would. Anyways, I don't see how you could comment on this subject when you live in a place that never sees snow. You've probably never experienced anything like this.

Fl highways are full of **** and soda cans, our drivers are the biggest *******s ever. I have had to avoid pieces of plywood and all kinds of crap. Knowing how to avoid danger is jsut part of being a good driver. Dont follow close to the truck, pass it and keep going.

Tim S · 12-31-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V6 SSTANG

Fl highways are full of **** and soda cans, our drivers are the biggest *******s ever. I have had to avoid pieces of plywood and all kinds of crap. Knowing how to avoid danger is jsut part of being a good driver. Dont follow close to the truck, pass it and keep going.

Most definetly. As far as traffic I've actually been in, South Florida drivers are not far behind NYC drivers. It's crazy.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 08:18 PM

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Most definetly. As far as traffic I've actually been in, South Florida drivers are not far behind NYC drivers. It's crazy.

yeah tell me about it, NY sucks. I counted 15 seconds from one honk to the next. People there suck.

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPhantom

yea dude chill out, my bro is an Owner/operator and drives way more cautious than cars do... Insurance is friggin high on a rig, so they have to drive like robots with no MISTAKES.... Most of the accidents I have seen where by careless people driving too close behind rigs or trying to pass us with either their lights off, or on a short cut off median... Just stay atleast 3 or 4 car lengths behind a rig at all times, and don't cut one off, they can't hear your ass..... and if ice falls off and hits your car, well sorry bro its not the drivers fault, it is mother nature's...

Don't tell me to chill out. I have a valid arguement. You might not be aware, but some people have actually been killed and injured after chunks of ice have slammed through their windshields. You don't have to be following directly behind the truck to get hit. You could be in the next lane or a 100 yards behind and still get hit!.

For safety's sake, it doesn't take much for these truckers to clean off the roof of their trailers before going on the road. This has nothing to do with mother nature. If there's a sheet of thick ice on top, it's the driver's responsibility to clean it off.

I was on the road about a month ago and some guy in front of me was driving a minivan. He never cleaned off his windows or roof. He went to make a right hand turn and somehow misjudged where the road was and ran over some guy at a bus stop. He dragged the guy for a block!. Thankfully the guy survived. The cops came and charged the driver of the van. If you can't clean your windows, or the snow off the roof, you shouldn't be on the road. It's only common sense.

I'm fully aware of what these truckers deal with on a daily basis and I know insurance is expensive. Just for your information, I also work with these trucks for a living too, so I know exactly what your brother has to deal with.
Some of these truckers aren't perfect drivers either. Some of them can be complete a-holes and should go back to school to learn how maintain their rigs.

Travis · 12-31-2004, 08:40 PM

It is not their responsibility to do that. Not at all. If you're driving in weather that is conducive to that happening, then it is YOUR responsibility to be aware of it. Don't pass of responsibility to someone else just because you're too lazy to move into another lane.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

It is not their responsibility to do that. Not at all. If you're driving in weather that is conducive to that happening, then it is YOUR responsibility to be aware of it. Don't pass of responsibility to someone else just because you're too lazy to move into another lane.

well said and completely true

96whitestang · 12-31-2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustang

Not exactly. The sheet of ice doesn't just slide off and land on the ground. When you're driving at over 100KPH, many times the ice breaks apart and flys up in the air like a sheet of glass and then land on top of the oncoming cars. The guy driving the behind the truck probably wouldn't get hit, but the car 20 yard behind him would. Anyways, I don't see how you could comment on this subject when you live in a place that never sees snow. You've probably never experienced anything like this.

I find it funny how you randomly switch between metric and customary units of length.

Silly Canadians.

Anywho, 20 yards is probably a bit to close to be following while on a highway....especially when traveling at 60 mph....erm, I mean 100 km/h.

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 09:38 PM

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I find it funny how you randomly switch between metric and customary units of length.

Silly Canadians.

Anywho, 20 yards is probably a bit to close to be following while on a highway....especially when traveling at 60 mph....erm, I mean 100 km/h.

I use both. I was taught metric in school, but then halfway through highschool they started teaching us the imperial system (for shop class). I guess it's good to know both. Most of the older tradespeople still use the old system.

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

It is not their responsibility to do that. Not at all. If you're driving in weather that is conducive to that happening, then it is YOUR responsibility to be aware of it. Don't pass of responsibility to someone else just because you're too lazy to move into another lane.

You're WRONG. It's their responsibility. I wouldn't expect them to pull over to the side of the road during a blizzard to clean their trucks, but when it's nice and mild outside and the snow is starting to melt (like it was when this happened), it only takes a couple minutes to clean it. It's LAZY on their part for not doing this. And why should I have to move into another lane?. I'm aready in a different lane. Where else can I go?. These things happen so quick that there's little time react.

96whitestang · 12-31-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustang

I use both. I was taught metric in school, but then halfway through highschool they started teaching us the imperial system (for shop class). I guess it's good to know both. Most of the older tradespeople still use the old system.

I was just messin with ya. No worries.

Anyway, I know what you mean about the ice...well, sort of. But around here, rocks are usually the culprit. If they're not falling off gravel haulers, they're being thrown up by someone else. I can't count the number of windsheilds I've been behind that I thought were gonna bust because a rock hit it/almost hit it while driving down a two lane country road.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustang

You're WRONG. It's their responsibility. I wouldn't expect them to pull over to the side of the road during a blizzard to clean their trucks, but when it's nice and mild outside and the snow is starting to melt (like it was when this happened), it only takes a couple minutes to clean it. It's LAZY on their part for not doing this. And why should I have to move into another lane?. I'm aready in a different lane. Where else can I go?. These things happen so quick that there's little time react.

You have to realize that it could have been prevented if you werent in that position. You want to keep your car safe move to another lane, if you want to prove a point and have ice hit your car keep doing what you are doing. My moms expedition gets stuff on the top when we travel that probably flies off when she drives, you think that its her responsibility to climb on top of the truck and take it off. Dude be reasonable.

Dare · 12-31-2004, 09:56 PM

This would fall under what insurence calls, "an act of God". Just like when you are driving behind a gravle truck and a piece falls out and cracks your windshield. They can't fault either party for it so they call it an act of god and tell you to fix it yourself. I know cause I've had my windshield busted before, got the truck drivers plate and 800 number. Ended up having to pay $700 for a new windshield.

Besides, that ice could just as easily fallen from an overpass. Then who are ya gonna blame then?

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 10:00 PM

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This would fall under what insurence calls, "an act of God". Just like when you are driving behind a gravle truck and a piece falls out and cracks your windshield. They can't fault either party for it so they call it an act of god and tell you to fix it yourself. I know cause I've had my windshield busted before, got the truck drivers plate and 800 number. Ended up having to pay $700 for a new windshield.

Besides, that ice could just as easily fallen from an overpass. Then who are ya gonna blame then?

windshields are 700 GOD ****! I would drive with no windows before I spend 700

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by V6 SSTANG

You have to realize that it could have been prevented if you werent in that position. You want to keep your car safe move to another lane, if you want to prove a point and have ice hit your car keep doing what you are doing. My moms expedition gets stuff on the top when we travel that probably flies off when she drives, you think that its her responsibility to climb on top of the truck and take it off. Dude be reasonable.

How the f--k do you prevent something that is coming straight at you at the speed of light?. I don't think there was anything more I could have done to avoid that stuff. I was already a good distance away and not even in the same f--king lane. Hell, I've been driving down roads and had stones and all kinds of **** fired at my car from vehicles traveling opposite direction. That can't be prevented, but taking the time to clean the snow from your roof is only common sense . Every so often we hear about truck wheels flying off. How would you avoid something like that?. . Every situation is going to be different. You may have cars on both sides of you and can't change lanes. Maybe you can't slow down because you've got some idiot driving right up your ass. Only in a perfect world could you avoid this.

Dare · 12-31-2004, 10:06 PM

Yep, for that 96 Tbird it was. I couldn't afford to turn it over to the insurence. so I had to pay for it. And that was the cheapest place, everyone else wanted $800 or better! I could have gotten it done for like $300 at an auto glass shop, but they wouldn't touch the bird. something about the windsheild being a load bearing structure, the only places that would do it was a body shop. Basicly told me that if they removed the windshild without supporting the roof it would **** it up.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 10:08 PM

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How the f--k do you prevent something that is coming straight at you at the speed of light?. I don't think there was anything more I could have done to avoid that stuff. I was already a good distance away and not even in the same f--king lane. Hell, I've been driving down roads and had stones and all kinds of **** fired at my car from vehicles traveling opposite direction. That can't be prevent, but taking the time to clean off the snow from your roof can be. Every so often we hear about truck wheels flying off. How would you avoid something like that?. . Every situation is going to be different. You may have cars on both sides of you and can't change lanes. Maybe you can't slow down because you've got some idiot driving right up your ass. Only in a perfect world could you avoid this.

This is prevented by not driving behind trucks, I try to pass trucks on the highway so I dont end up right next to them or behind them. There are too many stories of multiple car accidents. Wheel flying off cannot be prevented. Ford had a recall on their expeditions because the lugnuts would not hold, this isnt limited to trucks.

Dare · 12-31-2004, 10:09 PM

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but taking the time to clean off the snow from your roof can be.

Enless its a flat bed, they probably aint gonna be getting up on the roof of the trailor. Its not like they carry a ladder. And besides. do you realy think someones gonna climb up and walk around on a roof thats covered in ice? Yeah right!

MrPhantom · 12-31-2004, 10:17 PM

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Enless its a flat bed, they probably aint gonna be getting up on the roof of the trailor. Its not like they carry a ladder. And besides. do you realy think someones gonna climb up and walk around on a roof thats covered in ice? Yeah right!

Exactly, the drivers are responsible to tie down a flat bed trailer with a load so in that case you can actually sue the driver... if its a closed refrigerated unit your ****ed Mr. Mustang. I don't know whats with you and being pissed off at truck drivers, but you better stfu hockey boy, they have enough responsibility as it is driving and watching the roads for idiots like yourself. Next time why don't you walk into a truck stop and tell the drivers to clean the ice off atop their trailers, i bet you would get your ass kicked or something...

Mr.Mustang · 12-31-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by V6 SSTANG

This is prevented by not driving behind trucks, I try to pass trucks on the highway so I dont end up right next to them or behind them. There are too many stories of multiple car accidents. Wheel flying off cannot be prevented. Ford had a recall on their expeditions because the lugnuts would not hold, this isnt limited to trucks.

You're not being realistic. There are more trucks on the road then ever before (at least in my area) and it's absurd to suggest that I avoid driving behind them if I want to prevent my car from getting nailed by ice or stones. I don't like driving in front, behind, or beside trucks anymore than you do but sometimes I'm left without any choice.

V6 SSTANG · 12-31-2004, 10:20 PM

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You're not being realistic. There are more trucks on the road then ever before (at least in my area) and it's absurd to suggest that I avoid driving behind them if I want to prevent my car from getting nailed by ice or stones. I don't like driving in front, behind, or beside trucks anymore than you do but sometimes I'm left without any choice.

then its a risk you are going to have to take, we all take risks on a daily basis.